Giant Pain

Hi All,

I have decided that from Summer 2022, I'll not be offering any of the Satanic Panic miniatures for sale or adding others, once the Giants have al been finished by Martin and sent to KS Backers.

It's been a good ride, and a great time, working with Backers and fans of my ideas to recreate the models twhich so many of us cut our gaming teeth on.

After posting the first of the completed Giant sets yesterday, amongst the 'likes' and positive comments, was one long exchange of PMs which left me thinking 'Why am I wasting my own hobby time and weekends?'

It's not how I make my living, it's a bit of shared lunacy with others and so, when someone has come along who wants to just rant and dig up the metaphorical garden, the end result is that I have to weigh up whether spending my time and at least as much money to match that raised via you wonderful people is what I want to be doing at 53 years old.

Anyway, here's the exchange which was actually pointless and which probably marks a 'scorched earth' campaign against this wonderful little old school experiment...

Fri 19:16

 

Phil Gregory: Hi Mark, I thought I would just talk to you in the private messages rather than on that board. Because I don’t want to seem like I’m being negative. I totally get that you let the artist do it his way, but what I am saying is you are posting pictures of greens for new models, and yet the kickstart it has not been fulfilled.

 

I’m all for seeing new work I like your stuff I think the models of the Knowles and the hobgoblins with great.

 

But I would like to receive what we paid for ages ago.

 

Surely the green is being shown should be the first project and not some side project?

 

MH: How do you mean? This is the first finished body set for the giants not a new kickstarter

 

MH: I'll refund you on Saturday as you obviously are not familiar with the Satanic Panic method

 

Phil Gregory: Oh right.. that’s what I asked you. Is this a bowling giant.. you said No

 

MH: I create with KS not use it as a sales platform

 

Phil Gregory: Hence me feeling frustrated

 

Phil Gregory: And regardless, I’m not being unreasonable. Something paid for in the summer should be delivered by Christmas in a reasonable world

 

MH: There are more than just the two bowling bodies and Martin sculpts in the order he sees fit. It's a massive undertaking. I'll refund you in full, Phil

 

Phil Gregory: No thankyou.

 

I have waited this long . I think it reasonable to deliver.

 

I got confused because I THOUGH you were showing greens for a new project.

 

Phil Gregory: Which , I’m sure you’d agree wouldn’t be right

 

MH: I never show greens because I use Kickstarter as it was intended - a creative platform. I think perhaps a refund is best and then you can decide if you want a giant when they are released to the retail market late 2022 or early 2023. The refund has been initiated and should be in your account in the next few days

 

Phil Gregory: See dude. That is so wrong. I am so unbelievably pissed off.

Your attitude stinks.

 

Phil Gregory: I have waited months for those figures and when I question your BLATANT lack of commitment .. you spit the dummy

 

MH: Blatant lack of commitment?

 

I have shown the pics of the first sculpts and that's a lack of commitment? No dummy spitting here, just responding to your comments by ensuring you are fully recompensed.

 

Phil Gregory: never asked to be recompensed. I simply ask that you honour our contract

Do what you say

Keep your word

 

Phil Gregory: Take the money send the figure

 

MH: I have not done otherwise having supplied pics to all backers within minutes of my receiving the first sculpt images.

 

Phil Gregory: Yes.. and I ASKED YOU is that the figures… to which You said No.

 

So I assumed you had moved onto another project before fulfilling the other one. It was a miscommunication. I was polite if terse

 

Phil Gregory: So now we’ve had a fall out over a miscommunication

 

MH: I've not 'fallen out 'with anyone. I use Kickstarter as a creative platform not for income and I'm sorry if that's not what you expected. Equally if you are unhappy I do not want to hold your 20 quid

 

Phil Gregory: It WAS my error in describing the giants as the bowlers

 

MH: The bowlers are two models from a larger range nothing more and I can only post pics as the models are sculpted

 

Phil Gregory: Fair enough.. no issue with that. As I say I THOUGHT. You were showing a new project which irked me

 

MH: Please excuse me but I will pick up tomorrow as I've had a 13 hour day at work in the studio

 

Phil Gregory: Ok last message. Apologies for getting the wrong end of the stick. I just wanted my figure